The 2:00 AM Reality Check

Recently, I was given some information that shattered my world. For a while, I was in a dark place, navigating a kind of mental devastation that felt impossible to process. In the quiet moments of that aftermath, I realized something chilling: I had nowhere to go, no one to call, and no established way to deal with the wreckage.

I don’t bring this up to share the news itself, that remains private. I bring it up to highlight a concept Scott Galloway often discusses regarding the modern male experience. While I consistently work at building relationships and networking, I realized there are very few people in my life with whom the bond is deep enough that I could call them at 2:00 AM if I were suddenly put out of my house.

It is a sobering realization to look at a contact list full of “colleagues” and “acquaintances” and find a void where “brothers” should be.

Crucially, this focus on male friendship doesn’t exist in a vacuum, nor does it stand in opposition to the progress of women. In fact, strengthening the emotional infrastructure of men is a vital component of a healthy society for everyone. In his book Adrift, Galloway makes this point clearly: “The increase in opportunities for women (and for people of color) is an important step forward. There is no justification for reversing these hard-fought wins.” The goal isn’t to pull others down to help men catch up; it’s about understanding that women generally want and deserve strong, emotionally grounded men in their lives. While women may want that stability in their partners and peers, I would argue that men need it for their own survival.

In our current era, what some call the Fourth Industrial Revolution, we are more connected by technology than ever before. We can sync our entire lives to a digital calendar in seconds. But that same efficiency can mask a growing isolation. We’ve automated our schedules, but we haven’t found a way to automate the grit and time required to build a friendship that can withstand a life-altering phone call in the middle of the night.

I’ve spent a lot of time lately thinking about the specific need for male friendships. There is a unique kind of strength found in the company of men who understand the weight of responsibility and the specific pressures we face. These friendships offer more than just social distraction; they provide a mirror. They offer a space where growth, not just in business, but in character, is witnessed and encouraged.

When those bonds exist, they act as a safety net for the mind. There is a documented benefit to having a circle that doesn’t require you to “perform” or “manage” your image. It’s about the peace that comes from knowing you aren’t an island. Yet, for many of us, the focus has shifted so heavily toward goals and “getting things done” that we’ve let the foundational joy of simple, deep companionship slide to the periphery.

This experience didn’t leave me with a list of tips or a “five-step plan.” I’m not an expert, and I’m not in a position to give advice. I am simply a man who looked at his phone during a crisis and realized the difference between a full inbox and a true lifeline.

Standing in that dark place taught me that while technology can enhance our lives, it cannot hold us up when our world collapses. Only people can do that. And for men, finding a way back to that kind of raw, reliable connection isn’t just a “nice to have”, it might be the only thing that matters when the clock hits 2:00 AM and the ground has just crumbled beneath you.

The Wilderness and the Wind: Why Your Journey is the Success You’ve Been Seeking

In the world of aerospace engineering, which Roy Moye III knows quite well, there is a concept called “thrust.” It is the force that moves an aircraft through the air. But thrust doesn’t happen in a vacuum. It requires resistance. It requires a journey through the atmosphere to prove that the machine can actually do what it was designed to do.

During my conversation with Roy, we spent a significant amount of time talking about his “wilderness” years—the nine years in corporate aerospace before he took the leap into full-time music and entrepreneurship with Stem Music LLC. It’s easy to look at Roy now—Grammy-nominated, local celebrity, successful business owner—and think that his “success” began the moment he quit his job.

But I challenged Roy on that, and I want to challenge you on it today. Success isn’t the destination. Success is the journey.

“Success is you becoming the person you were meant to be, in order to succeed.”

The Arrival Fallacy

Most of us suffer from what psychologists call “The Arrival Fallacy.” It’s the belief that once we reach a certain milestone—the promotion, the 20,000-word book draft, the thriving business—we will finally be “successful” and, by extension, happy.

But here is the truth I’ve learned through my own transition from a 23.5-year Air Force career to becoming an author and head of a department: The “arrival” is usually just a 15-minute high. Once you get there, you realize the goalposts have already moved, and the stakes have gotten even higher.

If you don’t learn to embrace the journey, you will spend 99% of your life feeling like a failure while waiting for that 1% of time when you’re standing on the podium. Roy and I discussed how his time in the cubicle wasn’t “wasted time.” It was the “flight prep.” Every spreadsheet he managed and every engineering problem he solved was building the discipline he would later need to manage a national educational brand.

Defining the Journey of Success

In my Core 5 Framework, I often talk about the interplay between where we are and where we are going. Success is the consistent application of your values over time. It is not a trophy; it is a trajectory.

When I spoke to Roy about his journey, I shared my perspective on why the middle part—the part where you’re tired, the part where the “wilderness” feels endless—is actually the most sacred.

1. The Journey is Where Your Character is Forged. You cannot handle the weight of a calling if you haven’t built the muscle during the journey. If Roy had been handed a Grammy-nominated platform in year one, he might not have had the “extreme ownership” mindset required to sustain it. The journey teaches you how to handle “No,” pivot, and stay grounded when the “Yes” finally comes.

2. The Journey Provides the Context for the Calling. Roy’s calling—using music to teach STEM ( Science, Technology, Engineering, & Math)—wouldn’t exist without his engineering background. If he had skipped the “boring” engineering years, his music wouldn’t have the authority it has today. Your current “wilderness” is providing the very data and experience you will need to serve people later.

Learning to “Bloom” Where You are Planted

Roy used a beautiful metaphor during our talk: he said he is currently in a “blooming” season. But you can’t bloom if you haven’t spent time as a seed in the dark, and you can’t bloom if you haven’t grown deep roots during the rainy seasons.

Embracing the journey means recognizing which season you are in.

  • Are you in the Clarity season, just trying to figure out what the next step is?
  • Are you in the Courage season, where you have to take a leap into the unknown?
  • Or are you in the Consistency season, where the work feels repetitive but you know the growth is happening underground?

I told Roy that the reason he is successful today isn’t because he’s on a board or on a stage; it’s because he stayed true to the “Flight Plan” even when the visibility was zero.

The “Wilderness” is Not a Wrong Turn

Many people feel that if they haven’t “made it” by a certain age, they’ve failed. But as we discussed in the episode, the “wilderness” is often where God (or the universe) is doing the most work.

In the Bible, the Israelites spent 40 years in the wilderness. It wasn’t because they were lost; it was because they weren’t ready for the “Promised Land” yet. They had to shed a “slave mentality” and adopt a “sonship mentality.” Similarly, Roy had to shed the “employee mentality” and adopt the “entrepreneurial calling” before he could truly take flight.

If you are in a season of struggle, stop asking, “When will this be over?” and start asking, “What am I learning right now that I can’t learn anywhere else?”

The “Flight Plan” Forward

To embrace the journey, you have to change your metrics for success.

  • Old Metric: Did I hit my goal today?
  • New Metric: Was I consistent today? Did I move the needle one inch? Did I learn something new?

When I sit down to reflect on my goals, I don’t just look at whether I hit the goal of writing the 20,000-word book draft; I look at the strategic narrative of the day. Did I show up? Did I connect with my family? Was I a person of integrity? Did I learn something new that will improve me?

If the answer is yes, then the day was a success, regardless of the “outcome.”

Closing Thoughts

Roy Moye III is “taking flight” now because he spent nearly a decade on the runway. He embraced the journey of the “engineer-artist” long before he was given a title for it.

Your calling is calling you right now—not just to a destination, but to a process. Don’t rush it. Don’t despise the small beginnings. And most importantly, don’t let the fear of not being “there” yet stop you from being “here” now.

The full interview with Roy Moye III can be found by clicking on Catching up with Corey, or by visiting my YouTube page.

EP 08: Catching up With Roy Moye III

In this episode of Catching Up with Corey, I am joined by Roy Moye III, a Grammy-nominated entrepreneur, singer, and local celebrity in Wichita, Kansas. From his nine-year career in aerospace engineering to becoming a full-time artist and actor, Roy’s journey is a masterclass in pursuing one’s calling. We explore how he merged his engineering background with his passion for music to create a unique platform that inspires the next generation of scientists and artists alike.

Roy is the founder of Stem Music LLC, where he uses the power of song to teach science, technology, engineering, and math to children across the country. In our conversation, he opens up about his personal wilderness seasons, the courage it took to leave a stable corporate job, and how he is currently blooming through new music, a master’s program in education, and a deep reconnection with his faith.

In this episode, we discuss:

Success as Purposeful Alignment: Why Roy believes success is defined by operating in your calling and making a positive impact on others—whether it’s one person or millions.

The Inception of Stem Music: How a desperate attempt to make a math lesson fun with a “Watch Me Solve the Equation” remix launched a nationwide educational movement.

The “Born to Fly” Mentality: The story behind his upcoming debut album, Stem Music Takes Flight, and how his own birth in Germany and return flight at three weeks old inspired his prophetic title track.

Trusting the Timing: A candid look at the challenges of entrepreneurship and the importance of trusting that your wilderness seasons are preparing you for the success you’re meant to handle.

Faith and Identity: Roy shares his journey of reconciling his faith with his identity as a gay man and how giving God his yes has blown the doors off his world in 2026.

The Power of Small Wins: Why Roy advises others to avoid overwhelm by picking one thing to fix or accomplish each day.

Collaborating for Community: The beauty of his Wichita album, featuring collaborations with local high school students, drumlines, and even an upcoming children’s book project with my daughter, Nalah.

How to get in touch with Roy Moye III:
Instagram: @royt3
Music & Stem Music: @thestemusic on all social platforms

Website: TheStemMusic.com- https://www.thestemmusic.com


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